Truenas scale striped mirror 2 NVMe boot device, "Patriot Scorch" Here's an example of what a 3-way mirror looks. 3. ) From what I can tell a striped+mirror/RAID5 topology would need to be done when the pool is created and a single stripe disk pool cannot be expanded to that after the fact. this pool was probably created the end of 2023 (whatever SCALE version was newest back then) eversince the system was continuously updated and the pool upgraded with its newest I found the Intel Optane P1600X 118GB drives on sale for $60 a drive (new) and thought that would be perfect. From memory nothing was selected to destroy anything or even presented. 04-RC. OS: TrueNAS SCALE 23. And you should now have a mirror. Destroy existing pool and create striped mirrors pool using the old drives. = 6Tb. 2), just create an initial pool with 2 drives mirrored. Provides instructions on managing storage pools, VDEVS, and disks in TrueNAS SCALE. Software Status Latest reviews Search resources. 1 Case: Fractal Design Node 304 PSU: Corsair RM550x Motherboard: Supermicro X10SDV-TLN4F (8C/16T + 2x 10gbe + 2x gbe) Memory: 2x 16GB Crucial DDR4 RDIMM Boot: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M. To create it in the UI, add 2 disks to a data VDEV to create the first 2 I would like to create a mirror pool with a first 16TB stripe vdev and a second mirror of the first one, also 16TB. 3 with 4 cores and 64 GB non-ballooned RAM. Following disks exist in this NAS: 2x 3TB HDD; 2x 2TB HDD; 1x 1TB HDD; 1x 250GB SSD; Wishes towards the system : There is a important area where the data is possibly backed up (maybe mirrored?) for all the important data (docs, databases etc) Now that drive is as a Stripe not part of the Raidz1, but my file size did go from 11. 1 Supermicro X10SRi-F, Xeon 2640v4, 128 Gb ECC RAM, Seasonic Focus PX-750 in Fractal Design R5 Data pool: 6*4Tb striped mirror + 1 hot spare VM pool: 2*500Gb SSD mirror boot pool: 2*250 Gb SSD How can I manage to combine two disks each? Do I have to do the combining in BIOS first or in TrueNAS then? My gut feeling said I could do it in TrueNas with setting up a pool with disk1 and disk2 as stripe set up another pool with disk3 and disk4 Actually, I have used 86 % of 2 disk striped pool. Joined Jul 3, 2013 Messages 22. But I would like to try and figure out how to do it anyway. Chris Moore Hall of Famer. At this time I do not anticipate needing more than 16TB storage for the next 5 years. Second, you're likely to have more vdevs. TrueNAS SCALE Supermicro X10SDV-4C-TLN4F mainboard Supermicro SCE300 chassis Intel Xeon D-1518 Long story short, one of the hard drives is failing (ZFS reported the errors first, followed by SMART). From GUI, detach the volume, shutdown and unplug the existing drives. One of them holds the archive and daily backups of the 2nd server. I have a main system running TrueNAS Scale with 64GB RAM and a 4 x 16TB RAIDZ2 pool. Jan 4, 2024 #1 TrueNAS SCALE 23. Thanks Stux TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. Related topics on forums. 2 PCI NVMe SSD HDs: 6x Seagate IronWolf 8TB HD Fans: 2x Noctua 92mm NF-A9 PWM Welcome @os-mark The pool will need to be built the other way around - you'll mirror the 2x18T and 2x12T drives with each other, and then "stripe" those - but with the same result of roughly 30T of usable space (less the overhead from the TB to TiB conversion, and a little reserved space for ZFS housekeeping. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 x Xeon Gold 6132, 128 GB RAM, Chelsio T420E-CR TrueNAS-SCALE-23. If I am correct I can lose up to 4 disks within one group. Samuel Tai. Server has plenty 2. 2 (Cobia) Chassis: Norco RPC-4224 (4U 24 Bay with quiet fan/airflow modifications) Pool: 18x NAS 4TB drives in mirrors TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. So I keep my copies backblaze and the external PC drive (freshly copied 3 days ago). I will have to buy another drive, and if I buy a new one, I will have 2 VDEVS with 4TB and 6TB capacity giving me a total of 10TB. Xeon E3-1230v2 CPU | 16 GB DDR3 ECC RAM | 4 x Seagate ST 2000DM001 2TB (striped mirrors) J. End result is 2x2-way mirrors, one of 2x120G and one of 2x110G. I did some searching in the old Truenas forum for adding a vdev to mirror and found this. To make a striped mirror, add the same number of drives to extend a ZFS mirror. I am looking at adding 1 or 2 more 4TB drives. It only gives me Stripe, Log, Cache, and Spare. Joined May 2, 2015 Messages 10,080. truenas_core; note; guide; I recently got a new disk for my NAS, so It’s time to convert my stripe pool into a mirror. 0 on SuperMicro SuperServer 5028D-TN4T; Motherboard: X10SDV-TLN4F; CPU Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1541 @ 2. In TrueNAS Scale, I have a 2 drive mirrored pool for testing, with more to be added when the drives arrive. 3-3 -> 8. I want to create 5 disks in a stripe and then mirror that with 1 spare. New drive = Sabrent Rocket 4. You have two sets of drives in mirror and both mirrors stripped together. There are I removed the mirror disk and added it as a stripe for more storage and now i wanted to add the new 18TB to mirror the 2 disk stripe as a whole. I am running SCALE and hoping that someone can give me a step by step. Aug 23, 2017. Replicate the datasets to the new pool. But in order TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Begin by creating a mirror of two drives, and then extending the mirror by adding another mirror of two drives. With those amount of drives Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. Software Status Latest reviews Search I currently have a 80tb striped pool that I set up a while back because I have another backup of the data and the drives are enterprise spec and not refurbished. Jul 18, 2013 #13 Hi With four disks in striped mirrors, up to two disks can fail without data loss, but if the wrong two fail, your pool is toast. 1 (TrueNAS SCALE Dragonfish [release]) With 2 8TB HDD set in Raid 0 (Stripe Mode) When I set the system up I started with 1 HDD, copyd the data from the First HDD to the second and then included the Second in the Stripe Mode. 02. its not truenas related but a customer had 5 drives failing on the same day because the manufacturer made some mistakes and all the drives with a wide range of ascending serialnumbers died in a row, thats a This week I upgraded the server to the latest TrueNAS SCALE (with a fresh ISO install) and installed two more of the same 20 TB drives, bringing the total amount of data drives now to 4x 20TB drives. Might consume a little Going to really need help with this one. If you mirror the two 2TB drives together, you only get 2TB of storage, but either drive can fail and there is no data loss. For example, you start with ten available drives. To make a stripe of two 3-drive RAIDZ1 VDEVs (similar I am planning to setup a TrueNAS Scale zfs diy NAS for the first time. Add your 2nd disk as a VDev. 0-U6. Resources. Report TrueNAS Bug I just checked my Volume Status and wanted to get someone with more experience to confirm if this is indeed a RAID10 or Striped Mirrors in ZFS Terminology. 0 1TB The Sabrent is 22. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) idk what you are talking about with the swap but here is the background story on this system this is a old optiplex micro mashine bought used on ebay. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 x Xeon Gold 6132, 128 GB RAM, Chelsio T420E-CR As you mentioned, I can't go with mirror + stripe (it's dangerous). If I have an unexpected shutdown/power loss, and manage to blow out an SSD as a part of a striped pair, that's CASE: Fractal Define 7 running TrueNAS SCALE 24. 6U1 Experiment MB and a few of disks, Striped. 4. Which will incur 3 drives parity instead of 2 with raidz2. Below is the output from zpool status: pool: Shared state: Dear Community I have been dealing with a dreading problem for the last days and I am at the end of the rabbit hole and close to giving up. This forum has become READ-ONLY for historical purposes. Thread starter Deogorn; Start date Jan 4, 2024; D. 9 x64 | Intel S1200v3RPS | Xeon e3 With stripes and mirrors you can add and remove vdevs though. New posts Search forums Blog Forum Rules TrueNAS Community SLA Need Help Logging In? What's new. The TrueNAS Community has now been moved. 1-STABLE -> 13. TrueNAS will then stripe data across those two vdevs and any data written to a particular vdev will be mirrored across both discs in that vdev. 12. I would like to switch to a striped version of ZFS where I I have a "1TB" NVME drive in a stripe pool. Scale constantly crashing (I suspect the latest Plex update) davistw July 26, 2024, 11:29am 6. U6. What would happen to my striped mirror pool? TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. I am fortunate I can add a mirror. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1240L v5 @ 2. Users can exercise an optional step to avoid data loss from device failure or any performance degradation by arranging the Log VDev as a mirror. (4x HDD) with 4x 3TB drives. 04-BETA1 64GB RAM 10th Generation Intel i7 Samsung NVME SSD 1TB, QVO SSD 1TB Boot from Samsung Portable T7 SSD USBC CASE: Fractal Define 7 running TrueNAS SCALE 24. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) stripe to raid-z. Find the pool, go to Storage TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. Report a Bug. I’m planning on using the server as a combination NAS drive and also utility server running jellyfin, pihole, mineos etc. In all the documentation it looked like I could make a Raidz1 of these drives and pair them with my data drives. Begin by creating a mirror of two drives and then extending the mirror by adding another mirror of two drives. That's the different between mirror/stripe/and striped mirror if you want to throw more devices into it. Report TrueNAS Bug Report TrueCommand Bug How To Make a Good Bug Can i add another hdd of same size, and convert the 1 that is stripe to mirror with the new hdd of same size? PhilipS Contributor. I selected and replaced a disk with a larger one and after resilver all is good. New posts New resources Latest activity. Primary storage pool. I pulled it from section 8. truenasuserh; Nov 29, 2023; Operation and Anyway by own not-ability the new drive is now in a stripe instead mirror of the one OK disk in mirror-0. Drive loss ability = 2 (but only one from each vdev) B) One vdev, 4x 3Tb drives in RAID Z2. 2 (Cobia) Chassis: Norco RPC-4224 (4U 24 Bay with quiet fan/airflow modifications) Motherboard: Supermicro X10SRi-F (UP, IPMI, 10 SATA3, 6 PCIe3, 1TB RAM limit) Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) You can turn a stripe (in ZFS terms a single drive vdev is a stripe) into a mirror by simply adding a drive to the vdev. Lower IOPS than expected / slow small file transfer through SMB. I have a little n100 based board with 2 nvme slots and I have 2 new 16GB m10 Optane drives. 4x 16TB Toshiba as striped mirror 2x Micron 7300 Pro 960GB mirrored as special vDev (metadata) no L2ARC TrueNAS-SCALE (Bluefin) Boot from mirrored 100GB Intel DC3710 BigPool: 8 * Seagate Exos 12TB HDD in 4 * mirrored pairs + 2 18TB Toshiba MG08 + Optane 900P as SLOG + Mirrored Special (800GB Intel DC S3610) Hello So i have TrueNas Scale and bought 2 Mellanox X3 10Gbps card and and an SFP+ cable for direct connection. So rather than create the equivalent of two raid 0 arrays with three disks then mirroring those, ZFS would create three mirrored pairs and then stripe across those mirrors, the equivalent of Raid 10 The result is the same in terms of performance but statistically less chance of a drive failure hosing your data Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Stripe. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Truenas Scale 23. root@Unixarena-SOL11:~# zpool status oracle-S pool: oracle-S state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM oracle-S ONLINE 0 0 0 c8t1d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors root@Unixarena-SOL11:~# zpool list TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. . I should have known better than to created a striped pool, but it is too late now. Joined May 10, 2016 Messages TrueNAS SCALE (whatever is current release) SuperMicro X11SSH-F, Intel E3-1225 v6; 64 GiB (4x16) Crucial/SuperMicro ECC DDR4 UDIMM 8 x 8TB HGST Ultrastar white-label raidz2 on on-board SATA 2 x 800GB Intel DC S3500 SSD mirror on LSI 9302-8i 1 x Intel P3600 2TB 128GB M. G. 10GHz HDD: 3 WD REDs and a few SSDs This will be a somewhat long post as I try to be as thorough as possible. I can’t figure it out. FWIW, I'd suggest just using the 6 and 10 in mirror. TrueNAS Scale: Dragonfish-24. Total Cap. The volume manager allows one to create a 3-way mirror. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) You would stripe your mirror with the new disk giving you a stripe of the mirror + the new disk. I've been really happy with it so far TrueNAS. How is Lets say I have 10 drives, 5 vdevs 2 disk mirror and on the first pair of drives a single drive dies. I want to configure it with 2 disk groups with 4 disks each. Joined Jan 4, 2024 Messages 3. Important Announcement for the TrueNAS Community. A striped mirror would be pretty robust. Original drive = Intel 760p 1TB I had planned to extend the pool to create a mirror with a 2nd "1TB" NVME. I have tried to create 2 stripes but then can’t find the option to mirror them. Add and manage SLOG devices in the Storage > Pools web interface area. All good on that part, but lets say the remaining drive would give in the resilver uncorrectable errors. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 x Xeon Gold 6132, 128 GB RAM, Chelsio T420E-CR 3Tb drives, we'd suggest you mirror them and stripe in that set of mirrored drives. dlavigne Guest. I have already received a pair of 6 TB drives I want to use for this. I would prefer to figure out a way to convert these disk to a mirrored set using 2 larger hard drives. However, the TrueNAS SCALE Supermicro X10SDV-4C-TLN4F mainboard Supermicro SCE300 chassis Intel Xeon D-1518 - 4 cores 32 GB ECC memory (migrating the data to the remaining stripe + the mirror) and then blank the removed "120G" drive and attach it to the stripe vdev. 10. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 TrueNAS-SCALE-23. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) It's possible to go from mirror to z1 down the track without needing separate back up disks. One of the disks in the striped pool is showing degraded. danb35. March 2015 Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. backup my nvme pool to my tank pool for a short time, delete the nvme pool, recreate it as a Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. It's supposed to be setup as a RAID 0/1 striped mirror: 1 mirror extended by 1 mirror. Now I want to make Backups of the Files and from what I Would a striped set of mirrored vdevs be limited to the IOPS of the slowest vdev? As a side question, for the redundancy of a pool of three two-way mirrored vdevs, would that mean that I could lose one disk for certain without losing data, and up to three disks if I got lucky and the right disks failed? TrueNAS SCALE Supermicro X10SDV-4C Hello everyone, My NAS is running TrueNAS Scale 23. I thought this would be enough for a while, but I was wrong. 1 Supermicro X10SRi-F, Xeon 2640v4, 128 Gb ECC RAM, Seasonic Focus PX-750 in Fractal Design R5 Data pool: 6*4Tb striped mirror + 1 hot spare VM pool: 2*500Gb SSD mirror boot pool: 2*250 Gb SSD TrueNAS SCALE 23. 4 TrueNAS Core Stripe To Mirror. Overall, we worry about loosing a drive during that unexpected power loss scenario. This got me thinking about striped mirrors. I'm also wondering where ada1 is, but that's a separate issue. The community here is my last hope. Joined Feb 6, 2014 Messages 5,112. I have a small TrueNAS Core deployment that I've been running on a single 1TB striped volume for a bit now. TrueNAS SCALE Supermicro X10SDV-4C-TLN4F mainboard Supermicro SCE300 chassis Intel Xeon D-1518 - 4 cores 32 GB ECC memory Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. Each disk group as stripe set. Thread starter HaNue; Start date Apr 26, 2023; H. But if I lose one disk of group 1 and one disk of group 2 (the same time) I am doomed. TrueNAS SCALE; Replies 4 Views 2K. 5 SSDs the way to go? Write amplification on mirrors? 4x 2TB (striped mirror) > 2x 4TB (mirror) Covert the stripe zpool to mirror zpool: It can be done by just adding mirror to it. Right? Would Hello I am Very new to Trunas, I did dapple a little while back but nothing serious. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 x Xeon Gold 6132, 128 GB RAM, Chelsio T420E-CR im still debating TrueNas Scale vs Core for VM, i started using TrueNas Scale last year so im more comfortable with it & linux , but everyone says TrueNas TrueNAS. 13 of the documentation (Splitting a Mirrored Pool). 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) TrueNAS-SCALE-23. 2 NVMe boot device, "Patriot Scorch" Fractal Design Node 804, Seasonic SSR Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Given that you have a an existing mirror, the simplest option would be to add 2 more disks (of whatever size you think you need), and add them to your existing pool as a new mirrored vDev. Joined Dec 27, 2022 Messages 17. That should evacuate the contents of the first VDev onto the second VDev. My plan of action is as follows: 1. ESXi 7. Administrator. If you lose two disks from the same mirror, then that pool is gone. That happens any time a Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. OTOH, resilvers are faster, so you aren't exposed for as long. TrueNAS-SCALE (Bluefin) Boot from mirrored 100GB Intel DC3710 BigPool: 8 * Seagate Exos 12TB HDD in 4 * mirrored pairs + 2 18TB Toshiba MG08 + Optane 900P as SLOG + Mirrored Special (800GB Intel DC S3610) SSDPool: 6 * DC S3610 1. 2) Two mirrors, stripe both mirrors onto one pool. 84 TB (storage pool - 3-way mirror) 2 identical systems, replicating VMs to each other. TrueNAS Scale for beginners: https: 2 x 800GB Intel DC S3500 SSD mirror on LSI 9302-8i 1 x Intel P3600 2TB 128GB M. You can add another drive to it to convert it to a mirror, and then add another drive to convert that to a 3 way mirror. Looking at the formula on page 10 of SFF-8447 ("LBA Counts from Advertised Capacity for 4096 Low Capacity Disk Drives"), a 2. Buf if either the mirror or the single disk fails you pool will be lost. Report TrueNAS Bug Report TrueCommand Bug How To Make a Good Bug "Poor write speed on striped mirrored pool" Similar threads Device /dev/gptid/706e4706-a7bb-11ec-a49c-14dae9124c74 is causing slow I/O on pool pool. Unfortunately you can't attach a smaller device to mirror a larger one - the reverse though is possible. 10GHz (2100. I'd expect 2X160GB Intel SSD Striped 2x16GB Sandisk USB Mirrored Boot Seasonic SSR-450RM Fractal Design Define R5 Cyberpower CP1000PFCLCD UPS. 6TB SSD in 3 * mirrored pairs + Optane 900P as SLOG AppPool 2 * 512GB Intel DC S3610 as mirrored pair TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. grone. Artion; Aug 23, 2017; Storage; Replies 2 Views 3K. you could do striped mirrors, which would give you 2 disk write speed, but only disks for capacity. Hello! My current setup is like this: TrueNAS-SCALE-24. Startup Hi, I've just installed TrueNas Scale in Proxmox, I manage to get the storage to show up, and now I've been trying to partition the one 1TB drive that I have so I can create a mirror in a pool and a stripe in another. WD Red 4TB (four), striped mirror, 8TB available Corsair RM550x Samsung 960 EVO 250GB PCIe NVMe M. I would now like to upgrade to TrueNAS and upgrade/convert my zpool to striped mirror (RAID-10). The wording in the manual and the GUI are Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. 04. 04-MHz K8-class CPU) (but not write) in a striped mirror of NVMe SSDs" Similar threads T. HoneyBadger actually does care. I'm currently leaning towards a new raidz2 over a striped mirror. RAID-Z1 is equivalent to RAID5, RAID-Z2 to RAID6 and RAID-Z3 to RAID6 but with 3 parity drives instead of 2. Use it together with the new disks up create a degraded z1 (ie one disk missing) Copy the data from the mirror to the degraded z1 Erase the remaining risk from the mirror and resilver in the z1. Is there anyway to trim the original Intel 760p so it has the same usable size as the Sabrent? SCALE-22. It isn't two stripes, one as a mirror of the other. Software Important Announcement for the TrueNAS Community. 1 Supermicro X10SRi-F, Xeon 2640v4, 128 Gb ECC RAM, Seasonic Focus PX-750 in Fractal Design R5 Data pool: 6*4Tb striped mirror + 1 hot spare VM pool: 2*500Gb SSD mirror boot pool: 2*250 Gb SSD mirror UPS: Eaton Eco 1200 NIC: Intel X520 10g. Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. iX. Block storage with 1 x 120Gb Intel S3500 SSD SLOG. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3 TN core 13. 0. 36GiB smaller. add the nvme drive to the pool (impossible i think), or 2. Now I would get one of my warm spares and replace the died drive. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 x Xeon Gold 6132, 128 GB RAM, Chelsio T420E-CR The last poster explained the difference between striped mirrors and mirrored stripes, but didn't point out that you can't do that with FreeNAS. 1-STABLE VM on Proxmox 7. ADMIN MOD ZFS Advice around striped mirrors . Forums. I detached the newly resilvered disk to see it I coud then reattached the old Striped mirrors is not a RAID-Zx, it's equivalent to a RAID10 (strip = RAID0 and mirror = RAID1). Result: one pool. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 x Xeon Gold 6132, 128 GB RAM, Chelsio T420E-CR One volume consisting of 2x2tb mirror and a single stripe 1x1tb drive; Steps to convert a single stripe to mirror. Drive loss ability = 2 After reading the risks of RAIDZ1, I eliminated that from consideration since data redundancy is very important for me. 2 system with a single zpool on it. I have six 3 TB drives and I would like to create 3 striped mirrors with 2 drives in each mirror - RAID10. (ie another disk to mirror your stripe), then hit extend, then select the drive you wish to use as the additional replica to form the mirror. Testing single disk: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=2048k count=50k results in about 130MB/s transfers Testing striped mirrors: Your pool consists of two mirrors, which are striped together. 04-BETA1 64GB RAM 10th Generation Intel i7 Samsung NVME SSD 1TB, QVO SSD 1TB Boot from Samsung Portable T7 Yes, the TrueNAS docs are talking about a single mirror vdev having slower sequential I/O than a RAID-Z vdev whereas those articles are comparing a pool with one RAID-Z vdev vs a pool made from multiple mirror vdevs which is ZFS's equivalent to RAID-10. 1 (TrueNAS SCALE Dragonfish [release]) With 2 8TB HDD set in Raid 0 (Stripe Mode) When I set the system up I All things related to TrueNAS, the world's #1 most deployed Storage OS! I have two 2tb SSDs installed other than the first one, is there a way to just add one of them and turn it into a mirror Add second vdev of 2 drives as mirror, striping both vdevs into one pool. I have 2 4TB HDDs mirrored. What am I missing? TIA, ~eric . List the stripe zpool. Not recommended for data VDEVs storing critical data. 1 Motherboard: Intel DX38BT (ES) So basically - is that possible or is the only way to increase capacity to add disks at the end of a stripe (or, I guess, dangerously seaparate the mirror, create a new unmirrored stripe with the new capacity, copy the data on the original unmirrored stripe over to the new one, then retroactively mirror them if that's even possible. Striped Mirrors OS: TrueNAS CORE 13. From my understanding RaidZ2 would stress the disks more over time and during rebuilds than an equivalent Striped Mirrors [Raid10] for a measly gain of 1/2TB usable space [20% TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. Mirror & Stripe w/ Existing Data. How can I achieve having floating capacity between mirrored datasets and striped ones? I would use minio and create 2 buckets horizontally spanning the drives (1 with replication, and an another one without, think standard and TrueNAS-SCALE-23. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 x Xeon Gold 6132, 128 GB RAM, Chelsio T420E-CR If you want max IOPS than you will want 3 vdevs of 2 drives (striped mirrors), like your second example. I have setup the IP for both cards and it connects but i still get a 1 Gbps connection for transfer. 2 (Cobia) Chassis: Norco RPC-4224 (4U 24 Bay with quiet fan/airflow modifications) Motherboard: Supermicro X10SRi-F (UP, IPMI, 10 SATA3, 6 PCIe3, 1TB RAM limit) 12 x 2TB SATA (internal, mirrored, photos/generic file server) - Kingston Digital HyperX Predator 240 GB PCIe Gen2 x4 (slog) - removed, no performance improvement - Intel 540s Series 180GB (l2arc) - removed, no performance improvement 4 x 960GB SSD SATA (internal, mirrored, XenServer VMs) 12 x 3TB SAS (HP D2600, RAID-Z2, security video) A raid 1+0 at 4 drives has a 1-2 drive fault tolerance. Uncle Fester's Basic FreeNAS Configuration Guide TrueNAS SCALE 23. 10GHz HDD: 3 WD REDs and a few SSDs I thought the process to go from a ingle HDD in a Stripe array to a mirror was to insert the new drive to use, wait for it to show up in the disks list, Go to the pool Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. As far as I can tell, it consists of two vdevs, a raidz2 and a single-drive stripe. 1 Supermicro X10SRi-F, Xeon 2640v4, 128 Gb ECC RAM, Seasonic Focus PX-750 in Fractal Design R5 Data pool: 6*4Tb striped mirror + 1 hot spare VM pool: 2*500Gb SSD mirror boot pool: 2*250 Gb SSD TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. Then mirror that. Show : NAS2 (Est. Allocate SSDs into this vdev according to your use case. This means I created a striped pool (I A raid 1+0 at 4 drives has a 1-2 drive fault tolerance. Report TrueNAS Bug Report TrueCommand Bug How To Make a Good Bug Report. iXsystems. If speed is an issue for you, that's the reason to keep then in consideration. 1 Case: Fractal Design Node 304 PSU: Corsair RM550x I have inherited a FreeNAS 8. 2, Retired System Admin, Network Engineer, Consultant. Build #3 - TrueNAS 12. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 x Xeon Gold 6132, 128 GB RAM, Chelsio T420E-CR Stripe. If a drive in each mirror dies, you are still good, as the stripe still exists. After the pool is created, EXTEND the pool with another 2 drives (again mirrored). Mirror. One of our moderators, @jgreco, has a server with 8 sets of 3-way TrueNAS-SCALE-23. Show : Replication Target. TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. grone; Jul 14, 2022; TrueNAS SCALE; Replies 4 Views 2K. Assuming your data all fits within that 512G size, you could make a new In the new GUI (v11. I could easily buy 2x20TB disks and Experimenting with my "new" 24/7 server and TrueNAS Scale. Might even have to replicate a few time. addin to stripe pool of 2 disks the mirror with 1 disk. 1 SCALE Cluster: 2x Intel NUCs running TrueNAS SCALE 24. The drives are 17 months old and the pool is currently about 35% full. Create the striped mirrors pool using the new drives in the main system. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) im still debating TrueNas Scale vs Core for VM, i started using TrueNas Scale last year so im more comfortable with it & linux , but everyone says TrueNas Core is more stable plus it uses RAM more efficiently( on Scale due to a linux limitation, it can only use 50% of the available RAM, but there is a workaround where you set the zfs_arc_max TrueNAS SCALE 23. TrueNAS SCALE Supermicro X10SDV-4C-TLN4F mainboard Supermicro SCE300 chassis Intel Xeon D-1518 - 4 cores 32 GB ECC memory Even with 2 HDD the only option other than "stripe" is "mirror" but the "Create" button still stays in grey and I cannot click it. But, if both drives in a single mirror dies, you loose all data. Replicate datasets to the new striped mirrors pool. vdev1 2x3TB vdev2 2x3TB vdev3 2x3TB I've managed to scavenge another 2x3TB drives and was just planning to extend with another mirrored vdev. Want to make a mirror vdev. Jan 18, 2021. Use zpool attach "Converting a Nonredundant ZFS Storage Pool to a Mirrored ZFS Storage Pool" TrueNAS Scale: Dragonfish-24. May 5, 2016 #2 Target | Thermaltake Core W100 | TrueNAS-SCALE-Angelfish Supermicro X9SCL-F | Xeon E3-1220 V2 @ 3. "RAIDZ1 vs RAIDZ2 vs mirror vs RAIDZ1 Striped speeds" Similar threads Locked; 10 drives - 1 vdev RAIDZ2 vs 2 vdev RAIDZ1. 9500T 32GB RAM in 2023. i5. I am interested in running them in a striped boot-pool. mikroob; Jan 18, 2021; Storage; Replies 5 Views 2K. U3. In effect a stripe is a 1 disk mirror. If a drive in each mirror dies, you are still good, as the stripe still Hello, The title says it all. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) I thought that striped zfs mirrors would perform similarly to hardware RAID 10, but in my performance testing, it is resulting in almost the exact same speeds as a single disk. The one advantage of striped mirrors is that they're potentially much faster than raidzx arrays. Hi, I have a server with 8 disks. I want a fast storage pool for photo/video editing and VM storage, preferably capable of saturating 10G. A data VDEV with a stripe layout irretrievably loses all stored data if a single disk in the VDEV fails. The 2 disks in the stripe are a matched set. The 2nd TrueNAS-SCALE-23. 2 x 4Tb WD & Seagate retail NAS CMR. I've got a multi mirror vdev pool made up as follows. The issue I’m facing is that the TrueNAS interface doesn’t allow me to configure this setup. I now am contemplating moving the pool to be mirrored and buying another 80tb but this is a Your choices are stripe, mirror or raidz1, raidz2 or raidz3. jhc Dabbler. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) All things related to TrueNAS, the world's #1 most deployed Storage OS! Members Online • vyruz1986. Patriot Flare 2 x 60Gb Modern drive sector counts appear to be governed by SFF-8447 (which updates the older LBA1-03 standard to include "high capacity" drives with greater than 8 TB nominal capacity). I’m new to using NAS Currently using TrueNAS SCALE with a 2Tb and 3Tb drive - striped to be used as 5Tb storage drive. Repeat this three more times until you add all ten drives. Build Report + Tutorial OS: TrueNAS Scale: Dragonfish-24. TrueNAS-SCALE-23. When creating or expanding a pool, open the ADD VDEV dropdown list and select the Log. First, mirrors do not consume a variable amount of space for parity. Result: two pools. 10 and I have 12 hard drives of different sizes, totaling 32TB of capacity. Is it possible to use add a 4Tb or 6Tb drive to mirror the existing setup? If so how? So, I will admit, I'm very new to freenas, (2 weeks in, lol). Rebel: 9. The closest would be to set up a new pool on the 10TB, then use graid/geom or whatever to make a stripe device. I have an SSD drive as jschmok; Thread; Dec 15 Hello I know what I am saying is not the most ideal solution. HaNue Dabbler. What I have found is that TrueNAS Scale only supports stripe or mirror, which severely limits the size of the metadata vdev. 03U3g with virtualized TrueNAS Scale 22. Any help would be appreciated. Oct 15, 2023 #2 Hey @sybreeder You've got it correct on all fronts - as long as you have sufficient space in the remaining vdevs you can remove mirrors or stripes. S. With a 3-way mirror, one could lose 2 disks in a given vdev, without losing the entire pool. stripe/mirror is USUALLY faster because of less processing overhead. Designates that each disk is used sequentially in the VDEV. D. Then remove (in the gui) the first. 2. SCALE Hi, I'm currently running a 5-disk raidz1 pool (5x 4TB) and would like to increase my available storage. TrueNAS SCALE 23. I would like to create a mirror pool with a first 16TB stripe vdev and a second mirror of the first one, also 16TB. 5TB available to 15TB available (yes i already have 3TB in the array due to it being part of my existing NAS) TrueNAS SCALE 23. Deogorn Cadet. mirror) 3x Solidigm SSD D5-P5430 NVMe 3. T. (In case you haven’t read the documentation yet a pool can consist of multiple vDevs, and a vDev can have a variety of redundancy options - but the general I believe what you want is striped mirrored vdevs. I'd expect this to show roughly 6TB of disk space, but it shows 3TB leading me to believe the second mirror is a A) Two vdevs, each with two 3Tb drives mirrored, then stripe the 2 mirrors. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) 1) Two mirrors, one mirror each into a pool. My idea was to basically mirror my original 2x 20TB stripe. currently i have 2 pools, one NVME pool for my apps and one tank pool with all of my disks I recently bought another NVME drive to mirror my NVME pool, only issue is that I am unsure of how to; 1. Freenas will automatically add each pair of mirrored drives as RAID10 doesn't apply in a ZFS context, but yes, you created your pool as a 2-way stripe of 2-way mirrors. Due to my hodgepodge of disks, I have two volumes, one mirror, and one stripe. Unfortunately, it seems to be an odd setup. Hi everyone, I’m very new to the concepts of NAS and servers in general so i apologise for any incorrect terminology in advance 🙂 I have an old system that I’ve installed Truenas scale onto sucessfully just using a 250gb SSD for the OS. It looks the the right way to make it back into a mirror is the use "zfs attach" in the CLI Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. 10GHz | 16GB ECC Boot: 2x MZ-5EA1000-0D3 | RAIDZ2: 4*5x TrueNAS-SCALE-23. But, the best solution, would be build the RAIDz2 volume with 6 drives from the start. Moderator. and In the process of replacing a failed drive in a mirror on TrueNAS Scale, I made a mistake (detached rather than replaced the failed drive) and the vdev is now a single drive and the GUI will only let me add a new drive as a stripe rather than a mirror. Import the new RAIDZ2 pool into the new My current setup is like this: TrueNAS-SCALE-24. 17 Jul 2023. 1. Then you can “extend” the second disk with the now removed first disk. Install a fresh 1x1tb drive. Disconnect one of the two mirror disks. 0-U8 Supermicro X9SCL, Intel Xeon E3-1240v2 32Gb DDR3 ECC UDIMM's RAIDz Bulk storage: 4 x 8Tb RAIDz2, 3x shucked WD Easystore & 1 x Seagate, w/1 x 120Gb Intel S3500 SSD SLOG. From the things I've read I thought it was possible to do that, but I might be wrong since I don't have much experience with TrueNAS-SCALE (Bluefin) Boot from mirrored 100GB Intel DC3710 BigPool: 8 * Seagate Exos 12TB HDD in 4 * mirrored pairs + 2 18TB Toshiba MG08 + Optane 900P as SLOG + Mirrored Special (800GB Intel DC S3610) SSDPool: 6 * DC S3610 1. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. With the first option, you can lose one disk from a mirror without losing data. These will work in mirrored mode or by themselves. 048 TB SSD using 4096-byte logical sectors should have Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. 1 Supermicro X10SRi-F, Xeon 2640v4, 128 Gb ECC RAM, Seasonic Focus PX-750 in Fractal Design R5 Data pool: 6*4Tb striped mirror + 1 hot spare VM pool: 2*500Gb SSD mirror boot pool: 2*250 Gb SSD The solution to this is mirrors. The difference in the setup is the order that you stripe and mirror. However when I go to extend volume their is no selection available for mirror, just stripe, log, etc. 1 Case: Fractal Design Node 304 PSU: Corsair RM550x Motherboard: Supermicro X10SDV TrueNAS CORE TrueNAS SCALE TrueCommand. (screenshot in the attachment) I'm trying out TrueNAS scale and in love TrueNAS. We are a small film post-production shop and have been working with two TrueNAS servers for the last years. 2 SuperMicro X11DPH-T, Chassis: SuperChassis 847E16-R1K28LPB 2 x Xeon Gold 6132, 128 GB RAM, Chelsio T420E-CR Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. 1. CASE: Fractal Define 7 running TrueNAS SCALE 24. Mirrors aren't as good at making good use of the raw disk space (because you only end up with 1/2 or 1/3 the space), but in return for the greater resource commitment, you get much better performance. How do I create a vdev instead of a pool? TrueNAS-SCALE-23. SCALE I have two 16TB Seagate Expansion drives. I have tried to create 2 sets of mirrors (2 drives per) but no option to then stripe them. Jul 15, 2022. com for thread: "a stripe data vdev is highly discouraged and will result in Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. Since it is relatively cheeky to do in the webui I’m writing a note. 6TB SSD in 3 * mirrored pairs + Optane 900P as SLOG AppPool 2 * 512GB Intel DC S3610 as mirrored pair Version: TrueNAS CORE 13. Idea: 6 drive raidz2 / striped mirror Now I want to put the hot spare and unused drive to a good use. 8TB each. 5' bays and 12G sas HBA: Are (striped)mirrors of 2. 2 (boot) Noctua NF-F12 PWM Cooling Fan Hi All, Just a quick one. SSD stripe to a weekly HDD mirror backup. 04-BETA1 MB: ASUS P10S-I Series RAM: 32 GB CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Once that is transferred and I've saved up a few more gil, I would like to then add another 2x12TB mirror and stripe the mirrors. I was wanting to replace one of the striped drives with one of higher capacity, but have been unable to find out how. I bought a small pc to start messing around with TRUENAS scale, this had one 1TB HDD (+1 256GB SSD for truenas scale) that I wanted to setup in order to learn the software and such. To be technically correct, when you stripe disk pairs first then mirror the pairs it's called RAID 0/1, not RAID 10, which builds mirrors first then stripes across them. truenas. Requires at least one disk and has no redundancy. I then tried to attach the old disk and it’s only avaialble as a new disk. Denotes that each disk in the VDEV stores an exact data copy. These M10 . 1 Supermicro X10SRi-F, Xeon 2640v4, 128 Gb ECC RAM, Seasonic Focus PX-750 in Fractal Design R5 Data pool: 6*4Tb striped mirror + 1 hot spare VM pool: 2*500Gb SSD mirror boot pool: 2*250 Gb SSD In the former case, you'll be left with a two-disk mirror of the larger size disks; in the latter case, you'll have two mirrors striped together (similar to a RAID 10 arrangement). TrueNAS SCALE Supermicro X10SDV-4C-TLN4F mainboard Supermicro SCE300 chassis Intel Xeon D-1518 - 4 cores Then selected two more discs and created another mirror vdev. 3) One RaidZ2 with four disks. joeny jikgn zsu rruoz eflye fnyzo ocpafl pcxp zeek blvs